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  • Shocker04
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    08:28, April 4, 2020
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    So a few aliens on the Biomnitrix page (Diamondmutt, Frankenhead, XLR-Freak, and XLR-Wolf) have both canon names and DNA lab designs. I suggest that we could potentially create pages for these. Granted, Tom Perkins has said that they aren't necessarily their "canon" designs, but they're arguably just as canon of a design as those for Gravadactyl, XLRG, or even the non-fusion alien Decagon Vreedle; they're essentially just concept art that have been thrown onto pages, I don't really see this as much different nor do I see the harm in adding the pages for these four. Assuming any other DNA lab fusions retroactively get canon names it could apply to them, as well.
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    • Great 👍 

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    • Support Support — Seems harmless enough

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    • Go for it

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    • Do what you wish.

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    • Support Support

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    • I'm okay with this

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    • Do it man!

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    • Oppose Oppose — Gravadactyl, XLRG, Decagon Vreedle etc. concept art was created for the show, with the artists getting paid by CN for their work, and CN getting the rights over the art. The DNA Lab Fusions were created by Tom Perkins, who also worked on all other fusions, sure, but specifically not for the show, but the game. He was paid by Bandai for it, and Bandai has the rights over that artwork. I suggest, we REMOVE all the DNA Lab artwork from the Biomnitrix page. (The Grey Matter artwork is even more dicey, because technically it wasn't commissioned by Bandai either, so basically it amounts to Fan Art and should be removed from the Wiki altogether)

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    • Shocker04 wrote: Oppose Oppose — Gravadactyl, XLRG, Decagon Vreedle etc. concept art was created for the show, with the artists getting paid by CN for their work, and CN getting the rights over the art. The DNA Lab Fusions were created by Tom Perkins, who also worked on all other fusions, sure, but specifically not for the show, but the game. He was paid by Bandai for it, and Bandai has the rights over that artwork. I suggest, we REMOVE all the DNA Lab artwork from the Biomnitrix page. (The Grey Matter artwork is even more dicey, because technically it wasn't commissioned by Bandai either, so basically it amounts to Fan Art and should be removed from the Wiki altogether)

      The Grey Matter artwork is kinda not fan art. It was drawn under the same premise until Tom realised "hey wait I'm not being paid for this" and stopped.

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    • Anish Singh
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      06:26, April 4, 2020
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    • atleast they should get their own non canon pages

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    • We already have tons of non-canon articles, so... Nothing wrong with this imo

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    • Aaronbill3 wrote:

      Shocker04 wrote: Oppose Oppose — Gravadactyl, XLRG, Decagon Vreedle etc. concept art was created for the show, with the artists getting paid by CN for their work, and CN getting the rights over the art. The DNA Lab Fusions were created by Tom Perkins, who also worked on all other fusions, sure, but specifically not for the show, but the game. He was paid by Bandai for it, and Bandai has the rights over that artwork. I suggest, we REMOVE all the DNA Lab artwork from the Biomnitrix page. (The Grey Matter artwork is even more dicey, because technically it wasn't commissioned by Bandai either, so basically it amounts to Fan Art and should be removed from the Wiki altogether)

      The Grey Matter artwork is kinda not fan art. It was drawn under the same premise until Tom realised "hey wait I'm not being paid for this" and stopped.

      Yes, but absolutely anything drawn by an artist who worked on the show doesn't count as official. If DJW were to draw up a new alien now, outside of working for the show or some game, would it be considered official? No. It's just personal art of the artist. No matter the premise, it is decidedly not official.

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    • Support Support — We have pages for game-only characters (like Omnitrix Glitch Fusion from one of the reboot games), so I see no harm in making pages for the DNA Lab aliens.

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    • UltiVerse wrote: Support Support — We have pages for game-only characters (like Omnitrix Glitch Fusion from one of the reboot games), so I see no harm in making pages for the DNA Lab aliens.

      That's a better idea, however, the DNA Lab fusions technically don't have names.

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    • Four of them have names as confirmed by Derrick/mentioned on-screen. We can make pages for those four and leave the rest alone until they get names.

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    • But if you want to make pages on the aliens as game-only characters (and consider them separate entities from the show), they didn't have names in the game. The other option is make them concept fusions that didn't appear on the show, but then you can't use the artwork because its unrelated to the show.

      What I mean to say is, the XLR8 and Ghostfreak fusion in DNA Lab is just that- XLR8 and Ghostfreak fusion, NOT XLR-Freak.

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    • Support - they're as much of an official fusion as Gravadactyl and XLRG-- they were all scrapped ideas

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      Here is where Tom Perkins said the designs aren't canon.

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    • Support Support

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    • Shocker04 wrote:
      But if you want to make pages on the aliens as game-only characters (and consider them separate entities from the show), they didn't have names in the game. The other option is make them concept fusions that didn't appear on the show, but then you can't use the artwork because its unrelated to the show.

      What I mean to say is, the XLR8 and Ghostfreak fusion in DNA Lab is just that- XLR8 and Ghostfreak fusion, NOT XLR-Freak.

      The entry for that could still be called "XLR8-Ghostfreak Fusion", no?

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    • Ok, so few changes have been made for this situation:

      1. The DNA Lab fusions have been shifted to DNA Lab/Gallery, the place where they rightfully belong. Biomnitrix/Gallery has been cleared of these fusions.
      2. Individual pages for DNA Lab fusions will NOT be made as there is not sufficient information to warrant a page. All there is to these fusions is their artwork.
      3. All Biomnitrix fusions technically exist in the Classic Continuity, so while their artwork may be unfinalised concept art, they are canon aliens (like the Decagon Vreedle). Necessary changes have been made.

      With respect to these changes, this suggestion post is no longer applicable / valid, hence I am closing this thread.

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