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  • At this point it hardly matters anymore considering the og continuity not being continued at the moment, But considering albedo is actually one of my favorite antagonist in the series and I feel like this is a rather betrayal of his character and I figure talking it out with some others might not hurt.

    So if I’ve gotten it correct albedo has worked together with vilgax a whole of 3 times right? And the first two times vilgax betrays him, first time by taking the omnitrix for himself, the other by wiping him out of existence (which shouldn’t have worked either he’s not an actual alternate version of Ben just a genetic copy.) the only time he doesn’t get turned on is that Malgax fiasco and I’m pretty sure that’s just cause the protagonists beat them before squid dilly got the chance. I can’t see albedo ever wanting to team up after the first time vilgax duped him though, like his biggest character traits is his ego and his vengeful nature. I’d think albedo first instincts upon meeting vilgax again would be to beat him to a pulp or run from him.

    Sure he hates Ben and all, but whenever they encounter there’s also something else albedo is after. He’s not as smart as azimuth, and can be very short sighted sometimes but he’s still REALLY smart. I wouldn’t think he would make the mistake of working with Vilgax without a better plan In mind or something.

    He even admits he suspected vilgax would turn on him when he had the chance. In one of the last episodes albedo was in people he actually considered friends turned in him. He was in denial about it at first yeah but I suppose it’s odd we never got to see the conclusion of that whole relationship. Personally I think it would make him even more cautious of trusting people right? I would almost claim that whole thing with the nightmare parasite could have very well messed his mind up a good deal, or you could argue vilgax is just that good at being persuasive, but that just doesn’t sound like a satisfying answer to me.

    It’s a real shame I think omniverse got the first three episodes they showed albedo I’m in that brains arc were amazing and seemed like a natural progression of the character for the most part, but afterwards they just sort of made him into a side goon for bigger threats which I feel is a real wasted opportunity.

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    • Common interest, and he never learns. That's a thing, he can be super stubborn sometimes, hard to convince him from something or teaching him something new when he believes he got it right

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    • Yes I suppose he is stubborn, but still. He’s constantly after Ben and azmith for things less grievous than the things vilgax has done to him. I think it would have worked better to see albedo actually try to betray vilgax one of the three times they collaborated together. Even if it was a attempt that failed or back fired I think it would make him seem a bit more like the clever adversary he’s suppose to be and not just another persons pawn.

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    • It would maybe work better, but it'd be impossible to do so without making Vilgax look underwhelming, which some fans are already pretty pissed about because of UAF. Albedo's always had the 'gets double-crossed super duper hard' role to the point the writers just stuck with it

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    • huh, I guess it might have been a lose lose situation at that point. Then again vilgax didn’t really have that threatening demeanor in Omniverse I think the fans wanted with him that we had in the original series anyway.

      Hmmm, considering albedo didn’t get to do much in the malgax attacks episode anyway, what if they were to make it so albedo and vilgax were both after the malware sample but vilgax simply got to it first, and maybe we could have albedo side with the good guys momentarily only to betray them or leave after vilgax is defeated. Something I noticed about Omniverse with albedo is they showed him on the protagonist side both in the malware origin episode and his first present appearance. I feel like this could have been a neat little tease of a redemption arc of sorts for the character even if it a tease in vain. Plus it should show how powerful malgax is when even the combined efforts of two users of a type of omnitrix are needed to fight him.

      I see some futility of thinking of alternatives to the reality of the matter, but if that’s the last episode they want to show Albedo It could have done a bit for right by him.

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    • Maybe him being trapped in an 11 year old body damaged his confidence even more and he'd do anything at that rate

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    • Hmmm,that kinda makes sense! I can see his arrogance/self esteem issues mixed with the emotional maturity of an eleven year old effecting his overall judgement. I never really noticed how much albedos mind was changed when he got turned into an eleven year old. I might have to rewatch some episodes

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      I agree a Albedo redemption story would of been intresting though, sure he did wrong but I felt bad for him at times, give him his Galvan bod back

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    • Yeah! Albedo was never completely evil. He became more ammoral in Omniverse but I’m not sure if he did anything that went past the moral event horizon, I mean if Kevin and argit can get one I don’t see why albedo can’t. I can understand why the creatures might not care to go that route, but it would be nice to see a vilgax vs albedo fight at the very least before he went back to being evil.

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    • Albedo was innocent before. A jerk, but still a relatively good person.

      Then came Azmuth's treatment of him...

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    • Yeah I think the ending of a few brains more was a petty on azmuths part. Funny but petty, he was already going to jail but he made albedo a prisoner of his body more than he ever was. You’d think he’d see how that could back fire on him. I know omniverse ended with albedo being trapped in kid form but I cant help but imagine him still becoming an eventual threat in the main timeline again and more hellbent on revenge than ever.

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    • Azmuth doesn't realize his actions can have a bigger impact on people than he thinks. Look at Malware...

      Or even Ben...

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    • It’s been a problem if his ever since he made that sword. I won’t blame him for albedos first Betrayal as we don’t really know how things went between them at that point in time. In the episode malware evolved in albedo seemed to greatly refer and respect azmuth and had is back. I have to wonder what drove a wedge between the two.

      What I do blame azmuth for is some amount of apathy maybe. I’m pretty certain he could have cured albedos condition after he captured him in the his first appearence. If he did that and just sent him to a standard space jail I think albedo would have time to reflect on his actions and be open for rehabilitation.

      Something I always wondered about is whatever happened to albedos a thing friends like Hugh. They seemed to be able to get the soft side out of him. I’m afraid something bad might of happened to them off screen that drove the human Galvin further off the deep end

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    • I was talking to a friend of mine awhile back about Omniverse and some of its plot points and they suggested an idea I liked that later there could of been a scene of Albedo about to kill Ben but being unable to bring himself to it, questioning why. The reason being the kid mind effecting Albedo, though IMO maybe some of his old morals coming through because of it

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    • Hmmm, certainly an interesting concept! I’m not sure if he would get young bens morals as he doesn’t have the current bens morals but I think he might have more of an impressionable and emotional mind like young Ben might have. Like how the toddler Ben had that temper tantrum in the original series fountain of youth episode.

      Maybe he over hears a lot of things certain characters have to say and having the outlook of a child makes him look at them differently. Like uncle max, or his old theater partners or even a remorseful azmuth. A scene with been actually sparing Ben and even teaming up to fight a bigger bad would be lovely. The series could even end with him being “adopted” by some faction of hero, or heck maybe he just rides Of to do his own thing. I think anything short o killing him would work better than what Omniverse actually ended his story off with.

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    • To be fair he got stuff like Bens lying twitch and Chili Fry liking, so now its just getting worse or maybe the child mind is more naive like what you were saying, though its true the 2nd part just became his own thing even if he denies, and honestly I'd like to try them too.

      Sorry to get a little off topic but another idea my friend said that I liked is in the episode 'Vilgax must croak' when Vilgax takes the shot for Ben instead of him comidically being like "I don't know why I did that" instead it could be "Now I don't owe you anything" which is a callback to 'Ghost Town' when Ben helped him defend his planet and people from Zs'Skayr 

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    • Hmmmm, yeah I suppose that would be a good explanation! I mean even if you don’t take the ghost town episode into account he spends the entire vilgax must croak episode protecting vilgax!

      Speaking of Zs’slayr, they need to find a better explanation as to why he keeps coming back. They didn’t do a good job of it in alien force. And is it just me or do you think it’s should be pronounced differently? It’s odd to question how to pronounce a name the show made up of course but they see,Ed to switch the pronunciation of albedo for some reason so I’m not too sure they’re sure. I always read it as Zuu-sky-air but in Omniverse it’s zus scare. It’s weird how they finally decide to mention his name in the third series too..

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    • I think that was just to ad more nuiance to Vilgax. I go with Zus scare since its a pun on him being scary, also they had a chance to better explain how he came back and bridge The orignal series with Ghost Town in From Hedorium to Eternity IMO but didn't really from what I can tell
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    • Since you mentioned Azmuth before think it would of been neat if Zenith returned?

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    • Pfft, I was actually thinking of a scenario where a new villain talked about how zenith dying just to tick azimuth of. Might be a tad too dark though!

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