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  • I noticed how on this wiki's page for Terraexcava (Armodrillo's species), it says that the planet's name was revealed on Ben10Toys.net. I just woundering, is considered this a good source? If it is considered a good source, they have the names for Eatle and Jurry Riggs species. Eatle's is Oyrctini from the planet Coleop Terra, and Jury Rigg's species is Planchakule from the planet Aul-turrhen.

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    • Ask BlazikenRcf for permission on editing.

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    • I would quote the note on the page.

      Any users inserting false information about Jury Rigg's species or home planet will be blocked for a month. By false information, we mean information that hasn't been confirmed or has been mentioned in comic books. Anyone adding the species "Planchakule" or the planet "Aul-Turrhen" will be blocked for 2 months.

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    • He's asking wheter Ben10toys.net is a reliable source or not.

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    • He should read the rules then.

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    • I know what it says but still.......

      It was used to figure out armodrillo species.

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    • I know what it says. (stopped reading here) Good.

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    • It was used to figure out armodrillo home planet.

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    • But Khyber actually went to Armodrillo's home planet.

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    • But the name was revealed my ben10toys.net.

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    • I'm not going to add it. Thats why I'm asking. I just want to know if you would count this as a reliable source or not. I doubt that it is, but if it isn't, then why does it apply to armadrillo's planet?

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    • Mr.Mandude wrote: I'm not going to add it. Thats why I'm asking. I just want to know if you would count this as a reliable source or not. I doubt that it is, but if it isn't, then why does it apply to armadrillo's planet?

      Cause Armodrillo's species has been revealed and his planet has been shown, Eatle and Jury Rigg haven't had any major character that is the same or their planets visited.

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    • Madlooney6 wrote:

      Mr.Mandude wrote: I'm not going to add it. Thats why I'm asking. I just want to know if you would count this as a reliable source or not. I doubt that it is, but if it isn't, then why does it apply to armadrillo's planet?

      Cause Armodrillo's species has been revealed and his planet has been shown, Eatle and Jury Rigg haven't had any major character that is the same or their planets visited.

      Thats not the point. It doesn't matter that his planet was shown. We had no information what so ever about the planet until Ben10toys.net confirmed the name. It didn't tell us what it was like, just named it. Then later, and without naming it, omniverse showed it in an episode. So, unless you can show me where an official source name the planet, this wiki is taking the word of a website on one matter, but completely dismisses it on this matter. So, I ask the question again, is the information on that website a good scource or not? Because it is being referenced on this wiki.

      And if it isn't, then shouldn't someone remove the mention of it on this wiki? And if its not a good scource, and nothing official named it, then shouldn't we remove the name of Armodrillo's planet on this wiki completely?

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    • Mr.Mandude wrote:
      I noticed how on this wiki's page for Terraexcava (Armodrillo's species), it says that the planet's name was revealed on Ben10Toys.net. I just woundering, is considered this a good source? If it is considered a good source, they have the names for Eatle and Jurry Riggs species. Eatle's is Oyrctini from the planet Coleop Terra, and Jury Rigg's species is Planchakule from the planet Aul-turrhen.

      Jury Rigg species name came from one of the Ultimate Alien DVDs and Eatle species and planet name came from a magazine, i believe the same magazine called ChamAlien species Saurian from the planet Sauria. we know from the series that they are called Merlinisapien,their planet name was never mentioned on series.

      although the latter could be a similar meaning to Terran/Earthling and Aldabran. species demonym's called after the planet name.

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    • Linkmadara wrote:
      Mr.Mandude wrote:
      I noticed how on this wiki's page for Terraexcava (Armodrillo's species), it says that the planet's name was revealed on Ben10Toys.net. I just woundering, is considered this a good source? If it is considered a good source, they have the names for Eatle and Jurry Riggs species. Eatle's is Oyrctini from the planet Coleop Terra, and Jury Rigg's species is Planchakule from the planet Aul-turrhen.
      Jury Rigg species name came from one of the Ultimate Alien DVDs and Eatle species and planet name came from a magazine, i believe the same magazine called ChamAlien species Saurian from the planet Sauria. we know from the series that they are called Merlinisapien,their planet name was never mentioned on series.

      although the latter could be a similar meaning to Terran/Earthling and Aldabran. species demonym's called after the planet name.

      So there is official back up for this? Sweet. I believe that loadstar's species was also named differently before being changed, so the chamalien thing doesn't surpise me

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    • Then someone should just edit armodrillos page.

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      Then someone should just edit armodrillos page.

      Didn't you read Linkmadara's reply? Jury Rigg's info came from an UA dvd, which is official. One could also argue the the magazine was official, but I could understand if eatles page stayed the same. I would atleast put a mention of it on his page, if you could find the magazine, but thats just me.

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    • Then why isn't the Jury Rigg's page being edited?

      And Oneofthosedf, you aren't an admin anymore. Don't threaten that you could block us.

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      Then why isn't the Jury Rigg's page being edited?

      And Oneofthosedf, you aren't an admin anymore. Don't threaten that you could block us.


      1. I was never an admin.

      2. I never threatened anybody I would block them.

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    • 1. Sorry, I meant Custodian.

      2. Look at your 1st reply.

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      1. Sorry, I meant Custodian.

      2. Look at your 1st reply.


      I quoted what was already on the page.

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    • what note?

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    • Hey guys, go to Terraexcava's page and click on the talk section. Someone already asked the same thing I asked, and Blaziken told him that that site can only be edited by staff, so it is reliable!

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    • So now the page should be EDITED!!!

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    • I'm going to wait and see what df says first.

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    • Blaziken has CONFIRMED!!!!!!

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    • Yeah, but 1) I'm not a techy person and I'll probablly mess it up anyway and 2) I'm worried that someone will just undo my edit and say I tried to vandalize the page. Last time, I tried to change the total number of aliens in the omnitrix because someone miscounted, and it turned into this all-day event where I had to argue with a lot of people and talk to an admin. If you want to change it, go ahead, please do, but I'm going to make sure everyone knows what I'm saying is true before I do anything.

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    • Will I be blocked Blaziken? Because oneofthosedf said it but you confirmed it is a reliable source. So will I be blocked if i edit the pages?

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      Will I be blocked Blaziken? Because oneofthosedf said it but you confirmed it is a reliable source. So will I be blocked if i edit the pages?

      Exactly. I don't know. Thats why I'm waiting for df to reply. 

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    • Blaziken?

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      Blaziken?

      Oh, sorry I misread that. But I already talked to him. He said that it doesn't count because that info was in atleast 1 unreliable source, and that website isn't official, it just can't be edited by anyone but the staff of that website. And I asked why the wiki takes its word for Armodrillo's planet name, and he just said that it "Usually has reliable information" and he thinks it was confirmed somewhere else too, but he doesn't know where. But whatever.

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    • What do you mean whatever? Some species names could be revealed and you're saying whatever.

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      What do you mean whatever? Some species names could be revealed and you're saying whatever.

      Yeah, I know, but I did everything I could. Argueing with Blaziken wont do any good, and he may have a point. If you want to ask him you can.

      Heres what I think about this: The reason their species names arn't on the wiki is because, although they were revealed on an officially licenced Ben 10 product (a dvd), that product got several facts wrong, and may not have been writen by the actual staff. So thats why they say it could be incorrect. Fair enough I guess, but I think that because it is from an official product, it should at least be put into a trivia section. It could say something like "Although non-canon, the Ben 10: Ultimate alien DVD refers to Eatle's species as Oyrctini from the planet Coleop Terra." 

      That would make sense right?

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote: I know what it says but still.......

      It was used to figure out armodrillo species.

      I have a problem that you used that to find out anything. It what you all say is true than what proves that Ben10toys is something to be trusted? Why not update the pages with information that is blatantly wrong.

      Khyber going to a planet means nothing. No one said or mentioned a name. So how do you know the information given to you by Ben10toys is correct for the Andromeda Five when the information supplied for Eatle and Jury Rigg are wrong? And trust me, they're wrong.

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    • Xanton wrote:

      Vilgaxrocks wrote: I know what it says but still.......

      It was used to figure out armodrillo species.

      I have a problem that you used that to find out anything. It what you all say is true than what proves that Ben10toys is something to be trusted? Why not update the pages with information that is blatantly wrong.

      Khyber going to a planet means nothing. No one said or mentioned a name. So how do you know the information given to you by Ben10toys is correct for the Andromeda Five when the information supplied for Eatle and Jury Rigg are wrong? And trust me, they're wrong.

      Thats exactally what I asked Blaziken, and he said that it is because Terraexcava was confirmed to be correct somewhere. I have no idea where it was confirmed, or if it was really confirmed at all, but thats just what Blaziken said. And about the species names, their not necissarily wrong. They came from the Ben 10 Ultimate Alien DVD's, and a magizine. But supossedly, the dvd had some incorrect info in it, so while official, its not considered a reliable source. The writers DID write the species names for these aliens, but we haven't seen them yet, and maybe we never will. The names on the dvd could be correct, or they could be incorrect. We don't know for sure.

      But I think that we should at least put them in the trivia section because, while they might not be correct, it is an interesting piece of info from an official source that some people might find interesting. And thats what trivia sections are for, right?

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    • I get what you're saying about the trivia but I think people would still find it misleading. As for the DVD's I also understand but am still skeptical. Considering the writer's do have a hand in (possibly) putting those together there may be some truth in them (may) but the names don't sound like things they'd come up with for these species.

      Also I call foul on Terraexcava. If he can't produce a source then he has no backup to support his claim that it was confirmed, and being an admin doesn't justify confirmation of information without a source.

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    • Xanton wrote:
      I get what you're saying about the trivia but I think people would still find it misleading. As for the DVD's I also understand but am still skeptical. Considering the writer's do have a hand in (possibly) putting those together there may be some truth in them (may) but the names don't sound like things they'd come up with for these species.

      Also I call foul on Terraexcava. If he can't produce a source then he has no backup to support his claim that it was confirmed, and being an admin doesn't justify confirmation of information without a source.

      Well about the trivia section, you could just say that it is non-canon. That wouldn't mislead people. And about Terraexcava, You may be right, but there probabally really is a reliable source to back it up. I'm not going to ask him, but if it bothers you, you can.

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    • Mr.Mandude wrote:

      Xanton wrote:
      I get what you're saying about the trivia but I think people would still find it misleading. As for the DVD's I also understand but am still skeptical. Considering the writer's do have a hand in (possibly) putting those together there may be some truth in them (may) but the names don't sound like things they'd come up with for these species.

      Also I call foul on Terraexcava. If he can't produce a source then he has no backup to support his claim that it was confirmed, and being an admin doesn't justify confirmation of information without a source.

      Well about the trivia section, you could just say that it is non-canon. That wouldn't mislead people. And about Terraexcava, You may be right, but there probabally really is a reliable source to back it up. I'm not going to ask him, but if it bothers you, you can.

      I'm just saying that one needs to be given. It's what anyone has to do to verify that they didn't make up any information on the wiki. Admins aren't immune to the rule.

      You could be right about the trivia but it's just the way the wiki is set up and also that people would take it literally, because you know, even if you put the words non-canon before the section of trivia, someone would still take it as canon, that you wouldn't be able to put it.

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    • If blaziken does'nt provide a source, the article shall be renamed armodrillo's planet.

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      If blaziken does'nt provide a source, the article shall be renamed armodrillo's planet.

      The article was created three years ago. Any source other than Ben10Toys is buried in the wiki's extensive logs. There's no way to get it back.

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    • So either rename it to armodrillo's planet or add Jury rigg and Eatle's information or unbury the source.

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      So either rename it to armodrillo's planet or add Jury rigg and Eatle's information or unbury the source.

      Or option D: Keep it this way, because a source was shown and verified. Just because you weren't around doesn't mean the admins weren't.

      I really don't understand why you keep trying to tell the admins what to do, as if you - and only you - dictated what happens on the wiki.

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    • how can we trust you?

      Why was the source deleted?

      No source, No information. that is the way it happens.

      No exceptions for the admins.

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      how can we trust you?

      Why was the source deleted?

      No source, No information. that is the way it happens.

      No exceptions for the admins.

      A source was presented, which is why the article still exists. If you want, you can look through three years worth of records yourself to find it.

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      how can we trust you?

      Why was the source deleted?

      No source, No information. that is the way it happens.

      No exceptions for the admins.


      You understand what he is saying, right? There was a source but it is buried about three years ago. It is near impossible to find, what if you try? I also wonder why you always to try to tell the admins what to do.

      I suggest we close the thread, it has served its purpose and Vilgaxrocks is starting to make a flame war.

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    • You also said that Ben10toys.net is a reliable source.

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    • Xanton wrote:

      You could be right about the trivia but it's just the way the wiki is set up and also that people would take it literally, because you know, even if you put the words non-canon before the section of trivia, someone would still take it as canon, that you wouldn't be able to put it.

      Well I didn't mean you had to put non-canon specifically. Just some sort of disclaimer saying to not take it too seriously. But it doesn't matter if someone takes it the wrong way. I'm sure that a lot of the information on this wiki has been misunderstood by someone out there, but thats no reason to leave information out. As long as what would be put in the trivia section is well worded, correct, and has a disclaimer, its not our fault if someone takes it the wrong way. If I remember correctly, there used to be a piece of trivia on lodestar's page saying that some book or something called his species one thing, but the show called it another. I mean something like that.

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    • I agree with the trivia thing.

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    • Mr.Mandude wrote:

      Xanton wrote:

      You could be right about the trivia but it's just the way the wiki is set up and also that people would take it literally, because you know, even if you put the words non-canon before the section of trivia, someone would still take it as canon, that you wouldn't be able to put it.

      Well I didn't mean you had to put non-canon specifically. Just some sort of disclaimer saying to not take it too seriously. But it doesn't matter if someone takes it the wrong way. I'm sure that a lot of the information on this wiki has been misunderstood by someone out there, but thats no reason to leave information out. As long as what would be put in the trivia section is well worded, correct, and has a disclaimer, its not our fault if someone takes it the wrong way. If I remember correctly, there used to be a piece of trivia on lodestar's page saying that some book or something called his species one thing, but the show called it another. I mean something like that.

      Well, I remember reading a book which stated that Lodestar's species name is Electronian or something similar which is not true. I suggest you can put their species this way:

      According to a DVD, Jury Rigg's species' name is Planchakule yet it is not confirmed to be true.

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    • I get what you mean. I remember the Lodestar page. I guess it'd be worth noting.

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    • Blaziken rjcf wrote:

      Vilgaxrocks wrote:
      how can we trust you?

      Why was the source deleted?

      No source, No information. that is the way it happens.

      No exceptions for the admins.

      A source was presented, which is why the article still exists. If you want, you can look through three years worth of records yourself to find it.

      I think the problem here is not that source is lost, the problem is why was it lost. Why was the source not added, as all information like that is, to a references page? Why is it lost in three years worth of records. So far I don't see anyone dictating anything except you guys.

      If you have a source, great, put it up. That's also what this is about. It still is seemingly you all putting up possibly incorrect information without a source, which the last time I checked, could get people in trouble. So if you can please tell, from what source of verification did you guys come up with to confirm that that was the planet and species name for Armodrillo? Does your memory span back three years?

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    • That's what I have been trying to say.

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    • Vilgaxrocks wrote: That's what I have been trying to say.

      I know. People are jumping on you because you're trying to look out for the wiki. There's no flame war, it's just questions with a point.

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    • yup.

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    • A FANDOM user
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