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Sometime ago, the Ben 10,000 who appeared in OV and OS was split by the Wiki into different characters because, and I quote, It didn't make sense that they are the same. I am here to argue that sense or no sense, the Wiki is supposed to represent the canon, verified, official information about Ben 10, and the fact is, that the Ben 10,000 we see in OV is the same person as the one in OS.
DJWI quote Ultiverse from his suggestion post: No matter what Derrick said, there are a few reasons I think they can't be one and the same I think that we should not "no matter what <crew member> said". He's a crew member. He is providing information about the show. Whether we like the information or not, we must present it with all honesty. We are not the writers. We have no authority to change what we want about the show while presenting information. And no, DJW is just an Art Director isn't nearly true. He was very much involved in the writing process, the concept ideas, everything the creative team did. Proof? Look at Chadzmuth's page. DJW is able to provide us details of how episodes were going to turn out and the script was changed etc. A lot many things he says can give concrete details about the show from the creator's perspective (just like Dwayne or Eugene or anyone). That's why disregarding his comment on Ben 10k is a stupid decision. If he says (and he says that multiple times and provides explanation) that OV Ben 10k is the OS one only, that's what the writing team and OV creators intended, not that he just felt like it. Like, maybe you may feel they are different, but the writing team at least intended them to be the same. (If they had to create a different future, why not go UA route? Why bring back Kai? Why do future Gwen and Kevin look identical (till art style allows) to their OS future? Hell, even future Animo) Also, DJW has stated once that aliens like Atomix and Toepick appearing in OV was his idea, and only he remembered those from OS. (link on their pages) Clearly he did more work on the show that just drawing. Also, [1] If this doesn't speak for itself, I don't know what more proof can ever be sufficient. It's pretty clear that DJW didn't make that up that they are the same. They are the same. Matt WayneSome people argue about what he said. All he said was that the future is in flux and can change (probably a prudent statement for any more future Bens in a future series that may not be the same guy, like Ultimate Ben) Still, he hasn't explicitly stated the OV and OS futures are different, or even implied that. Not at all. Logic vs. Canon
Official Proof that OS and OV futures ARE separate?No official proof exists which says that ConclusionI think we should maintain our Wiki's self-imposed standard of being the best, 100% verified source of information. We should not impose our head-canon. Even DJW knows how much controversy his statements create here because people don't shed their head-canon. Keeping the future in OS and OV separate would have made sense had we had no official confirmation that they are the same. But because we do, we aren't justified in separating them. Same as Ben's daughter, I guess. Had we had no confirmation that she was her, it would have made sense for us to assume it's a background character. But knowing that she is, having official confirmation, we must abide by it. In my eyes, separating the OS and OV future, despite confirmation, is nothing more than fan fiction. As it stands now, people on the Wiki are editing the canon to make it more of what makes sense to them than what is actually confirmed. We are not the writers of the show. While they can mess with the continuity, "take what they like and ignore the rest" (quoting Matt Wayne), we cannot do the same. Or at least, we can, but we ought not to, if we are to stick with our claim of having 100% accurate and verified Ben 10 info. Thank you P.S. Voting ends 20th April |
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