All posts by Aaronbill3

<p> Support — I agree with the modified propositions people have made in the comments. Maybe we could have a single, iconic quote near the top of the page above the opening paragraph and a section near the bottom for quotes that better show off characters or their relations with other characters? </p>

<p>This question is already answered in the media. Ben transforms into Big Chill, who is genderless. He just becomes a normal Necrofriggian and retains his he/him pronouns. Gwen would just become a normal Namekian and would retain her she/her pronouns. </p>

<p> Neutral — I agree with Tron's suggestion that both be recorded, since Ben 10 ceased to have a solid sense of canon when season 4 of OS started airing. </p><p>Crew statements can be both good and bad. They can clarify things from the shows and expand the universe. But that can also be a bad thing, such as Duncan "confirming" that OK forms existed in OS for example. I can agree with drawing a line in the sand and I kinda suggested doing so a few months ago before DJW and Duncan started answering questions regarding the classic continuity. But the crew statements are still helpful sometimes. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>UltiVerse wrote: Personally, I think having the images in the galleries is better than having them on the main pages (even with your idea for a compromise) or uploading them to the wiki and not using them on any pages at all, because they'd easily get lost. The difference between them and the screenshots of Dwayne's statements is that the screenshots are technically used on pages, only as sources instead of proper images. </p> </i></div>
<p>That's what I meant, use them as sources only. </p>

<p>The problem, in my eyes, primarily comes into the realm of archival of information. This information is useful even if the artwork itself is effectively fan art at this point. The problems can be summed up like so: </p>

1. The images provide useful insight into the greater Classic Omniverse, insight this wiki is dedicated to cataloguing.
2. The images themselves are not official and are not, typically, made by staff. They are definitely not authorised by CN.
3. The only way to ensure the artwork is permanently archived (since it is useful) is to upload it to the wiki, or we risk losing the art and access to the information.

<p>I offer two potential some-what solutions: </p>

1. Do as I have done in my sandbox (relevant portion coloured in blue) and only have the artwork linked to at its source, but include a relevant date so that future editors can know and check when the information was added to the wiki and therefore whether or not it can be trusted. This reduces the ability for people to add trivia with invalid sources and just say "dude trust me" when the link doesn't work.
2. Do as is done with the Dwayne McDuffie sources in the same post- upload the artwork to the wiki but do not use it on any pages. We can add a template to the image itself stating that the wiki considers it fan fiction.

<p> Oppose — Wyatt is literally my favourite professional artist. Still fan art. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Shocker04 wrote: Oppose — Gravadactyl, XLRG, Decagon Vreedle etc. concept art was created <i>for</i> the show, with the artists getting paid by CN for their work, and CN getting the rights over the art. The DNA Lab Fusions were created by Tom Perkins, who also worked on all other fusions, sure, but specifically not for the show, but the game. He was paid by Bandai for it, and Bandai has the rights over that artwork. I suggest, we REMOVE all the DNA Lab artwork from the Biomnitrix page. (The Grey Matter artwork is even more dicey, because technically it wasn't commissioned by Bandai either, so basically it amounts to Fan Art and should be removed from the Wiki altogether) </p> </i></div>
<p>The Grey Matter artwork is kinda not fan art. It was drawn under the same premise until Tom realised "hey wait I'm not being paid for this" and stopped. </p>

<p>Chest-trix placement is a stock uniform design they gave everyone with no consideration for abilities. </p>

That's the only major detail that gets muddled by the episode orders.

Yeah the episodes aired out of order.

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Ultimate Night Stalker wrote: It is also possible that Alien X, for unknown reasons, came to Azmuth of each Universe and agreed to give him their DNA. </p> </i></div>
<p>That's exactly what I just said. Removing any brackets: </p><p>"It is, in my eyes, implied that Alien X gave their DNA to Azmuth in multiple timelines and/or dimensions as they wanted a voice of reason to help them settle debates." </p>

<p>Alien X being the same across the omniverse doesn't mean that every omnitrix has Alien X, just that every omnitrix that can have a celestialsapien has Alien X. </p><p>It is, in my eyes, implied that Alien X gave their DNA (which is really more like a phone that calls Alien X TO Ben's position and then places Ben inside their physical mindspace. IMO this means the Omnitrix could then be used again) to Azmuth in multiple timelines and/or dimensions (or maybe just the one, we don't really know) as they wanted a voice of reason to help them settle debates. Night Stalker is correct in that Alien X is a separate entity as when Ben first used Alien X, Bellicus and Serena were arguing about saving the dinosaurs. </p>

It's a tricky situation. MoA's statement directly contradicts statements made by the staff who worked on the three series containing Alien X. Additionally we cannot yet say whether the reboot and classic continuities take place in the same omniverse yet.

<p>Way Big is nowhere near 500'000 feet tall. The average human is about 6 feet tall, so if we assume Vilgax is 12 we can work out that Way Big is probably around 200 based on his height in Secret of the Omnitrix, but this is only rough guesswork. </p>

<p>good god I cannot decipher what you're trying to say here? There's no grammar or punctuation at all and, as far as I can tell, there isn't even a question here? "Omni-kix Jetray Return please help make it work right" ??? You want us to make a page? You want us to make the form function correctly in-universe? </p>

<p>for 1 and 2: </p>

1. Rath not being clothed was not so much a glitch as it was a database error. Rath's DNA was not registered correctly. It's more like a typo than a glitch.
2. Since the Omnitrix is supposed to be a device for helping stop racism, it makes sense that it would register species AND race. I'd go as far as to say the Omnitrix contains the Gourmand Queen's DNA as well and that DJW would be wrong for saying otherwise. To this end, the Omnitrix should register races such as the two Necrofriggian races seen but it would not register differences in design between series.

<figure class="article-thumb tleft show-info-icon" style="width: 180px"> <figcaption> <p class="caption">the real answer is</p> </figcaption></figure><figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px"> <figcaption> <p class="caption">don't think about it</p> </figcaption></figure>

<p>Isn't Rath's first use in OV to demonstrate his fear of water? </p><p>also his behaviour is closer to a housecat than a tiger. </p>

<p>Just a heads-up, I've updated Rath's position in the Reboot Aliens template </p>

<p>Not only did we have solid evidence to believe Overflow was an Orishan, but the between Bashmouth and Benwolf is far far greater than their's ever was </p>