Having satisfying Ben 10 prime death
Having Ken 10 series
Ben 10 prime never dies and is forever immortal through omnitrix's .
Having satisfying Ben 10 prime death
Having Ken 10 series
Ben 10 prime never dies and is forever immortal through omnitrix's .
@Riyyyyyyygbnn The problem with the “sacrifice” plot is that it’s often overdone and doesn’t seem to hold that much of a value in the superhero world. That’s too much of a common trope that many superhero stories pull off these days, and especially in films. Think about it, if Ben dies in a well established universe with so many other established characters, that would mean that you’re basically wasting Ben as a character from that point onward in the grand scheme of things moving forward. Yes, it does look cool and “inspirational” for so many people because we’re used to this kind of stuff. Killing a character is very easy, even Ben. Keeping him alive is the hard part. If you keep him alive to an older age, either with or without the Omnitrix, he could prove to be the valuable asset to not just the Plumbers, but everyone else as well. Besides, it is a rare occurrence for a superhero (at least in films or TV, not counting anime as they have their own rules) to survive and evolve as a character and that is a problem. I pretty much want to see Ben transition from being a hero to a valuable supporting character like Bruce Wayne from Batman Beyond or even like Grandpa Max.
It will be Boruto 2.0 so no it's better to get him a legendary death than milking his superhero status.
@Riyyyyyyygbnn Yeah but remember, Ben 10 isn’t Naruto/Boruto. How can you know for sure that if Ben retires he will or will not turn out like the OG Naruto cast from Boruto? It all depends on the creative team and how they deal with those stories. I’m 100% sure that either Man of Action or McDuffie would be able to give Ben justice if they were given a crack at retiring Ben. Man of Action would of course have a much crazier approach at how they would do it. Legendary death is a weak trope and really wasting the character from his universe. Remember, Ben 10 isn’t anime. Most famous anime have different rules of story compared to all the Western superhero animation. Have you not seen Batman Beyond, one of the better examples of how they deal with Bruce Wayne as a retired character? Grandpa Max has been retired for 20 years as a Plumber by the time OS aired. Besides their age, there’s nothing that’s nerfing them in terms of their credibility.
@BlazerStar1010 I don't see how's that orignal idea, cause marvel has done that type of thing in mcu such as with captain america, hulk.
Honestly Man of action would have made him more like reboot cause I don't see of man of action or dwayne mcduffie any better than writers of naruto.
Dwayne mcduffie has messed up with Ben 10 such as with Ultimate alien.
Ben 10 would have been pretty much decline in quaility too as we know it juggernauto of money for cartoon network.
@Riyyyyyyygbnn I shall counter that by saying regarding the MCU, the reason the characters are retired this way are because of contractual issues and actors wanting to pull out, so they have to make some compromises with the story.
Regarding Man of Action, they work for Cartoon Network, not the other way around. Cartoon Network asked them to make a Ben 10 series aimed for kids younger than our generation when we saw Ben 10. That’s why Man of Action made the reboot what it is. We often hear about behind-the-scenes stuff but what we often don’t hear that Cartoon Network themselves are HEAVILY involved. Without their seal of approval we wouldn’t have any of the episodes we see.
If Man of Action were left to do their own thing with the character I can say for sure that they would come up with a banger story. They are more than equipped to make a great Ben 10 story as they created the character.
Regarding McDuffie, I agree he messed up UA, but that’s again because of CN’s insistence of making Ben a poor reflection of his 10-year old self.
We have to understand that while Ben 10 is created by Man of Action, they DO NOT OWN the character because Cartoon Network does. CN gets the final say at what happens to Ben 10, not any of the creators. The reboot exists because of CN, nobody asked for this. I bet not even Man of Action, but of course they’ll make it because they want the green as much as anyone does. Ben 10 is one of CN’s many Golden Geese, and so they’ll capitalize on it however they can.
Regarding you saying retiring a character is not original, I’ll just say that the same can be said for killing a character. Neither of those ideas are original. In Ben’s case however retirement works for him because I believe he still HAS A STORY past his hero life.
As you know reboot and classic are both for kids but as for uaf, ov it is mix between some teens and most kids.
Ben 10 was and is always a kids show. Of course the word “kids” differs contextually from each other. In the OS it means it’s aimed towards younger generations but that’s when it gets as many new fans as it can. UAF was tailor made for the original fans who grew up but still considered a “kids show”, because it’s main purpose is to bring existing fans to a new chapter of the character, so that essentially means we’re growing up with the character. Yes, it brought new fans, but it’s main purpose was to cater to already preexisting fans from Classic. OV is where they decided that their main priority should be bringing new fans to the show rather than catering to the older fans. But clearly CN wasn’t satisfied as long as older fans were still in the picture because now that meant they have to keep the story relatively consistent. So they pulled the plug on the OG continuity and rebooted the whole thing. Now they can do whatever they want and they did. Ben 10 is popular again, just not the one we grew up with.
Uaf has teenage drama so it's does not appeal to some kids. Overall it's a TV-Y7 show so it's won't be like a shounen anime which is more of actual teens.
@Riyyyyyyygbnn Yet OS is TV-PG, which, if I’m not mistaken is a stricter rating to TV-Y7 so I hope someone tells me why.
If you didn’t see my previous comment I’m basically trying to say is that while UAF is targeted towards older audience (Ages 7-12) it makes more sense once you stop to consider that it is catering to those who were already fans of the classic. In any case we’re still considered “kids” in that age range if the ratings system has anything to go by.
We can’t and shouldn’t compare Ben 10 to any Shōnen anime in terms of story because Shōnen anime in general deal with stories a lot differently than Western animations would. Compared to any Shōnen anime, Ben 10’s stories are a lot simpler and streamlined. It also has less episodes and a compact storyline.
I guess audience grow they kinda are into more with darker themes or fantasy like berserk but some shounen manga like hxh which have bit darker topics and comedy .
What do you think?