Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6527064-20151205151611/@comment-26812877-20151231052124

Echoson wrote: For the last time. CARTOON NETWORK DOES NOT TELL DESIGNERS WHAT TO DRAW. Yes, they may say stuff like "No blood, don't sexualise them" but is usually it. The artist has creative freedom, like how DIsney allowed disgusting looking monsters in Gravity Falls, especially in Omniverse where Derrick is allowed to design pretty much anything, like Margikarp. STOP BLAMING CARTOON NETWORK FOR DESIGNS, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Seriously, you keep blaming CN although you obviously have no idea how or what it takes to make a show. You don't even know that fans have no input on how a show should be like, especially since it has already been written. CN gives guidance while the writers and designers do the rest, that is why the credits don't say "EVERYTHING IS FROM CN!". If your only argument is "blame CN", then that is not a good reason, at all. Man of Action even confirmed that they have a lot of input in the reboot, writing, editing, story boarding, etc. So they agreed  to these designs, the artists designs, not CN.

CN didn't design Adventure Time's simple art style, CN wasn't responsible for the sudden change in art style in Steven Univere's pilot and official show, CN has no input to what the designs are unless they are innapropriate, they just fund it. No matter how complicated the art style is (Young Justice, Teen Titans, etc) or how simple it is (Clarence, We Bare Bears, Adventure TIme, etc).

Do you get me? Alright then. My mistake. We all make mistakes. I'm just not happy about Ben and Diamondhead's reboot design. That's all. I was too harsh there and wasn't fair enough and I'll even admit that I don't know absolutely everything. However, you aren't right about everything that you state though. Regardless of what the designers do, Cartoon Network still has a say in this. They still call the shots on how they want this reboot to turn out and art design is included in that. Again, the designers and artists are doing what Cartoon Network told them to do. CN still calls the shots so they still get at least some responsibility on the art design. End of story.

Really, I have no idea what it takes to make a show, huh? How do you even know that? How do you even know that fans don't have any input on the series when Cartoon Network had been trying to shape the Ben 10 sequels based off of fan input? How about my response that I got from Man of Action based off of my criticisms of the reboot? I got a response from Man of Action on my criticisms and arguments saying "If we only could...", showing that Man of Action does not want to make this reboot, does not call the shots, and does not have the freedom and control that many believed they had and in actuality, it's Cartoon Network that has the actual freedom and control. Did you forget about me mentioning that a while back? I believe it was on this thread. When Rouleau stated that Man of Action are involved with the writing and editing on the reboot, Brandon Storm9 made a good point in regards to ghost writing.

Again, Cartoon Network has no input on the art design of their shows, huh? They own these shows. Cartoon Network can have their show made in any way they like and want because they own them. Again, I'll accept that I was too harsh and not fair enough with Cartoon Network there and may have some information wrong here. My bad. My mistake. After all, no one is perfect here and that even includes me. However, there is a lot about your comment that shows how ignorant you are. My opinions are my opinions, even when I'm right or wrong. You don't like the negativity of my opinions on the reboot, too bad. Either deal with it or screw off. Like I said on my message wall, you don't have to like and agree with my opinions but you better accept that they're there and that people like me have these opinions because that is just how the world and the internet works here. Well, ignorance is bliss, I guess.