Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6141704-20171015130913/@comment-27212711-20171029191725

Aaronbill3 wrote: To be quite frank, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Every single series has hired freelancers, that's basically an industry standard practice in EVERY creative industry.

Every single series used transformation sequences to shave off time that needed to be filled with more detailed content. That was half the point.

As far as I'm aware, every series employed Flash animation to some degree. I know for a fact that Omniverse employed a mix of flash and traditional animation, I seem to remember DJW saying that himself.

MOA's budget does NOT restrict them to only making 11 minute episodes, that's down to the state of CN right now. Yes, the episodes are half the length now, but the seasons are more than double the length. I'd argue that the budget went UP compared to previous series.

Finally, every big-budget company in the world (especially here in the west) would rather have its employees use flash than traditional animation. That's why Disney hasn't produced a 2D animated movie I over a decade. CG is cheaper and faster. Same deal with Flash except Flash has a lower barrier of entry. Flash isn't a bad tool either, if used right the products can be amazing. See: Twilight Sparkle vs Tirek in the MLP:FIM season 4 finale, which was animated better than quite a few episodes of Dragon Ball Super have been. I do have no idea what im talking about and i will admit that, i see the hiring of freelancers is an industry standard practice in the creative arts which CN is a part of along with its other two competitors Disney and Nickelodeon

I  missed the entire point, which led to me having no idea what i was talking about.

So transformation sequences have had time shaved of to focus on detailed content, fair enough.

every single entry within this particular franchise was using flash to a certain degree, even though i went all the way through omniverse i had no idea it was using both hand animation and flash.

MOA's budget does not dictate episodic length, its down to the state of CN right now and i am fully aware of CN's operational state.

TimeWarner/TBS (the parent company of CN along with Williams Street/Adult Swim in which the channel controls by its own ownership, and it shares airspace with) is undergoing a very large transition to where its going to be sold to the AT&T entertainment group, which marks the channels first major merger since the AOL one many years back.

TimeWarner's shareholders and its own board of directors have already approved the move, its down to AT&T to make the final call.

I am aware their lineups are at half length, at half the length it allows them to get more done.

I agree, the budget went up in comparison to omniverse. and that was before the restructuring currently going on with CN itself

CN, Nickelodeon, and Disney would rather have its employees animate by flash rather than by hand/digital ink and paint which saves them the expense that 2D animation entails.

Disney specifically stopped animating in 2D when home on the range did not do very well, which resulted in a lot of the tools they used when they were still doing it being sold off, where they switched to CG by the next year which saved them a ton of money.

I had no iea flash has lower entry barriers than most other methods of animation, i should look at flash animation on CN, Disney, and Nick as a good thing that can be just as viable as hand animation was back in the peak years for these companies.

To use flash the right way, it should be used on a program like MLP FIM and the example you used in its fourth season finale.

Dragon Ball Super, what i know about Toei Animation would be is 90% of the animation is done in the phillipines in that vendor's phillipinian office, the rest is delegated to Toei Japan at 10%.

In anime like that, and the flagship of Toei Animation one piece a lot of outside vendors are on the work at a time, and very often are created in mixed animation styles (where CG work is done by Toei Phillipines, most other traditional work is carried out by them also and so on).