Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24546717-20140607122025/@comment-1409915-20141024154929

Cokedragon wrote: Pop-ups aren't declared untrue. In that timeline that we originally saw, it only makes sense for Gwendolyn to be Kenny's sister. While they may not bear the most resemblance, what's between her and (young) Kai is absolutely uncanny, just like Kenny and Ben at age 10.

And Toepick's ability to throw slime balls was true at the time, back when Toepick wasn't ever meant to appear, the same deal with Atomix and every other alien that used to just be mentioned-only. When the OV team got their hands on these aliens, they botched them completely; Toepick-ex-machina and Atomix-ex-machina. That's literally all they are -- easy ways out. So the fact that they lack the necessary powers is irrelevant.

The pop-ups are true and will continue to be regarded as such so long as we know of them and they are not outright deemed false. If even Matt Wayne is uncertain of this Ben 10,000's relation to the original, then more likely than not, it's not the same Ben 10,000, especially if Gwendolyn is not his daughter and -- being an extension of the Ben we've seen in canon -- Vilgax is not dead. These are clear dividers of the original and the Omniverse one, but I wouldn't put it past this show to mess one more thing up and manage to retcon even this.

And Derrick's always complaining about UAF breaking the continuity >.>

/rant UAF did break continuity in a lot of ways, at least Alien Force did. However I will be the first to admit that it (UA) also helped clear up a lot of the problems floating about such as many things from Alien Force, Race Against Time and Alien Swarm. Omniverse however has gone back to the roots by going to the Original Series and finding and repairing as many unbroken chains as it can. I don't think we should disregard it. Also in the case of anything from the future it's never safe to say "this won't happen." Until we absolutely see it we won't know. In the case of Vilgax being dead, how do you know he won't be? How do you know the last episode of Omniverse the won't find a way to kill him so he's dead in the future? Just saying things aren't always as they appear.