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Zenoseiya wrote: Regardless of whether you believe the retcons to be good or bad, they're still obvious plotholes. Every series so far has retconned facts in the preceding series, and sometimes to preceding seasons within the same series (e.g. in UA season 3 Ben was said to have dated wheel chair girl when previous episodes showed was already in a relationship with Julie). Now, retcons aren't a bad thing, but retcons without explanations that open numerous plot holes ARE bad.

The explanation that Devin and Max were friends tidily explained why Kevin's family had lived in Bellwood in the first place: Bellwood had a local Plumber base (first shown in RAT, expanded in Omniverse).

Of course, saying all that was just false memories just raises more questions. How much of Kevin's family life that we saw actually happened and how much was fabricated? Why was Ragnarok trying to destroy the sun? Who was the real Devin?

You know an explanation that doesn't sound stupid? I'll give you one:

It would have made far more sense for, I don't know, the Rooters to be Osmosians from Osmos V, a centuries-old conspiracy that infiltrated the U.S. government and expanded Plumber operations to galactic-scale. The Osmosians are the descendants of humans transplanted to Osmos V millenia ago and crossbred with various alien species to create supersoldiers. The Rooters use their powers to absorb and duplicate alien abilities, explaining their hybrid appearances. Devin was a member of the Rooters assigned to watch veteran Max, but after confronting rogue rooter Ragnarok who was driven insane by his Osmosian abilities and became a psycho for hire, Devin questioned his own actions and faked his own death and later returned under the alias Aggregor. Devin/Aggregor isn't just some random evil overlord, he wants omnipotent power so he can create a world where his son Kevin can have a normal life. Kevin and the Amalgam kids aren't just random people the Rooters snatched up. They're the biological children of key Rooters, engineered as living weapons. Alan Albright's father, for example, is actually an Osmosian passing as a Pyronite, explaining why he and his son can assume a human apperance. The revelation that his protege was actually a villain who manipulated him would be a heartbreaking event for Max. The revelation that his father is a monster who created him to be a weapon would be a heartbreaking event for Kevin.

But no, that would be compelling and dark and edgy. Instead, the writers give us plotholes. Zeno, in the first place this was cause because Alien Force change the past of a character without reason, if you dont know it, Ben 10 doesnt happen in Bellwood, instead any episode happen in Bellwood (the last one is the only i can give that)

So while Ben, Gwen and Max travel in the campus passing through Seattle, San Francisco and a long etc of another citys of USA, they will fight a lot of villains, so we dont know if the 11 ears old Kevin live in Bellwood or in another city. In the first place that argument dont have sense, because in the first place we dont know where Kevin live in the first place.

What the WRITER (Len Uhley) give us is the fucking same thing you name up there, only that you can change that; Proctor Servantis is a monster and corrupt Plumber that use little kids of less 11 years old, to prove that the DNA of Aliens can mix with the DNA of the humans.

Now Max can feel really guilt because all this time he take care of Kevin and this "Plumber Kids" while they were products of experiments that he could stop. More than that Ben, Gwen and Max are guilt of what The Rooters Make, becuase if they wont trap Kevin in the Null Void then Proctor and Kevin never have found each other and all bad things could be stop.

In some way this story is really or more dark, almost every one of the storys that Omniverse write can be really dark plots, but is in the writers hands take the story that way, they can choice to show how Kevin becomes this Anti Hero and plan stop Proctor from take the Plumber Kids with the help of Argit and how he ends up in the Proctor hands with mind control in the middle of all this.

And show how Kevin gets mad again and show a little bit that guilt in Ben, Gwen and Max or they can show the same story only that taking it more in the side of turn Kevin sane again.

This can really fix everythig because thanks to the powerfull powers of Proctor they can almost retcon everything with a pretty flashback and now if they show Agreggor he can be a human that the Rooters main to make a copy of Kevin