Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24661095-20140309142453/@comment-24937310-20140612112920

JakDaxPeaceMaker wrote:

ICame2Play wrote: There is a tone of inconsistencies in Omniverse, especially regarding character development, like that Psyphon example you mentioned.

Still, I disagree with several of your arguments. Regarding your cons;

1. This doesn't count as a point by itself. You could've used it as a conclusion based on more concrete examples, but you can't say Omniverse is bad simply because "it's the worst Ben 10 show, period".

2.  Phantom? I assume you mean Ghostfreak, but then you call him that name too. Stick to one for clarity. And since when has Casper had claws or chains?

3. That was a problem that started in season 3 of Alien Force. You can hardly fault this show for being the only one. And which minor aliens are you referring to? And this show has been more explorative of what Ben's aliens are capable of. Like everyone thought Ditto was useless once we got Echo Echo, but then he does that cool "looks like jumping but is actually multiplying" thing. Ben does develop his alien powers. You can't apply a blanket rule because they are different enemies with different attributes.

4.  They obviously care more for the animation than AF/UA did. Look at all the variety in just the minor characters! And the action scenes are very cool. Everything has much more detail now, and it defines the characters even better. I personally thought Gwen and Kevin looked boring in AF/UA. It's like the animators thought "what's the easiest facial desgin to put on a toy?" then went with that.

5. We're getting a lot of call backs to the previous series. You could practically call this show "All- Star Ben 10" because of all the references.

Mr. Smoothie, Megawhatts, Galvan Albedo, (Anodite) Lucky Girl, Phil, the Krakken, Magister Patelliday, the Computrons, Azmuth's mecha suit, the villain crowd in "Special Delivery", Forever Knights from both OS and AF, Max's robot arm, Kai, Atomix, Toepick, Articguana...

If fans are angry about seeing those fan- favorite elements again, then that's just weird.

6. You'll need to clarify what this means.

7. Think what you want on the music, but at least the intro animation is a lot more creative than Ultimate Alien's. Here's all the aliens that Ben ever used, and we'll only use 20% of them.

8. From what I read on forums about the show, people got pretty bored by the Benlie pairing by the time of UA.

9. They're aliens. The writers can put whatever they like as long as it shows up in the medium well. And it does. Look at the polls here on the wiki. A lot of users rank Omniverse- original aliens among their top faves.

Right now I rank the franchise as OS> OV/AF>>>>>UA Y'know, I'm getting sick and tired of you people shoving down our throats that "OMG OMniverse is way better than AF/UA". Well, I've HAD IT!

Omniverse is one of the worst shows I've ever seen and I hope it get cancelled. CN has absolutely have no respect for the show or for the fanbase that grew up watching the series when it first debutted (like me).

Alien Force had an amazing first 2 seasons, and the animation was way better than the OS. I was less impresed with Season 3 but I though the return of Vilgax was great and a potential series finale.

Ultimate Alien was another great addition. At first, I didn't like it but after seeing it on Netflix, I think it was way better. And answers some of the questions: including Charmcaster and Hex's origin, and Kevin's past and how he escaped the null void and able to use his osmosian powers as shown in the series.

I know that your getting sick of seeing me around this wiki, but I will defend Alien Force and Ultimate Alien if its the last thing I do. Thank god!! I was kinda losing hope after all the pro-Omniverse things I saw, and i thought I might actually be losing it. We think alike, my friend.