Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6527064-20151205151611/@comment-24152851-20151216083009

I suppose Kevin still could have been enjoyable if he never teamed up with Ben and Gwen. He could still have his witty, troll personality from AF, minus the hero stuff, and would still be fine. He annoyed Ben throughout AF and could have done it if they were on different sides. Would that have worked for you? Kevin is still sort-of comic relief, but didn't become a hero with no explanation?

Oh okay, I thought you didn't watch Omniverse at all. Yeah fully agree, almost every Ben 10 retcon sucks. I usually hate retcons in general, but the Rooters was one of the stupidest ones to date.

I suppose Alien Force still had enough popularity to get a sequel. For your reboot, what age would you have the characters at? And would you still include stuff like the DNAliens and Highbreed?

Interesting point. Though I think it's safe to say the AF writers pretty much forgot everything about the 10,000 timeline. As you pointed out a long time ago, Kevin 11,000 doesn't add up with Kevin AF. Although, AF Ben wasn't serious to that level. Ben 10,000 was an exaggerated level of serious for the purpose of humor. While AF Ben's seriousness was plot related. But I agree, it's really stupid how they make him turn into the thing he resented. At the very least they should have explained why, what the hell happened to make Ben go all debbie downer.