Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-11169242-20130907142333/@comment-5808856-20141012153837

Cokedragon wrote: QuasimodoBellringer wrote: Cokedragon wrote: Batboyexe wrote: Actually now that I think about it, is the retcon even real? it's evident that Servantis can implant false memories, so good that they're hard to tell apart from the real ones who's to say the retcon wasn't just a false memory, plus the ending could suggest Kevin might be under some control...I mean this Retcon REALLY needs you to ignore one of the biggest villains in the series Agreggor (who was not only a full Osmosian, but also said several times his homeplanet was Osmos 5) to fully work. But that's just the thing. They're really trying to make this retcon, that makes absolutely no sense at all when you look at many UAF episodes (like Basic Training (Ben's a Plumber, and so is Kevin, which should've made finding him take no more than a second), Vendetta, Absolute Power and the rest of the Aggregor arc), look like it makes sense. This is not a matter of some underlying mission; Servantis is not continuing to control Kevin making the entire episode pointless (but it wouldn't be the first time an episode was absolutely pointless (*cough* And Then There Were None/Was Ben *cough*)).

First, I consider And Then There Were None/And Then There Was Ben to be the franchise's best episodes. Beating the previous Frogs of War.

I am going to be honest here. I though UAF to be....not that good. Not bad, but not all that good either. It kept the action, but replaced the humor with melodrama, and extreame anti climaxes (Ultimate Enemy Part 2)This is why I consider Omniverse, to be almost as good as the original.

Anyway. As I said. As long as they can make a good story from this I don't mind the retcon. I didn't say And Then There Were None/Was Ben were bad episodes (actually keeping my opinion quiet, because that's about as pointless as this); instead, I pointed out how absolutely useless the episode is. They basically took something that could've made some great arc and turned it into what can practically be called filler; the goal of the episode was also to teach an alternate timeline's Ben a lesson simply because the lesson had already been taught to "Ben Prime" (Why is he not called Ben 10? Who knows!).

And anything that UAF was, good or bad to anyone, OV is several steps down. Not a single episode ends without some inexplicable event that might as well have been answered with magic, with the exclusion of first-parters that will ultimately end the second part with magic. Really look at Omniverse for this and say it's as good as the original to ruin the original and UAF while at the same time staying inconsistent and presenting downright abhorrable content to past series' fans.

They can't make a good story out of this; the whole debut episode is flawed. Only by telling us this episode was absolutely pointless as it was all false will they be able to redeem themselves. But even then, they'll have to ride it on that "war that can't be won" people have been talking about =.= I find Omniverse a huge step up from being constantly bored in about 85% of the episodes in UAF. It has some actual attempts of humor, it is not constantly the same alien in nearly every episode, some villains are actually interseing again. Vilgax and Animo being the biggest step ups from their boring UAF versions. I can not even thinkof one interesting thing they did in UAF. As well as making some intersting for the first time like the Incusians, Argit, and Albedo. As well as some cool new ones like Khyber, whom is my new favorite villain.

I don't care if something is filler. As long as it is good. A show where about 90% of it is filler happens to be my favorite show. Sailor Moon. Well....the Japanese version and the newViz dub anyway....my thoughts on the old DiC dub are ...well....And I found that 2 parter to be VERY good.

So far this is a good story for the Rooters, and I want to see where they take it. Probobly the weakest arc of Omniverse so far, but still. I am invested in what is going on, intreeged to see what happens next. Much more than I can say for UAF, where almost all the time. I did not care about what was happening.