Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24546423-20141127133835/@comment-24374551-20141129120633

I don't understand how Grey Matter, or at least any alien can overpower The Presence. Upgrade is useless against a telepathic attack. How exactly can Scarlet witch be destoyed by Ben. She could turn him back before he even thinks about what to do. She could even take off his Omnitrix. Galactus, Thanos, Decreator, Infinity, Apocalypse all can do the same.

Adding on, Apocalypse can defeat Feedback as he also has telepathy. Apocalypse can defeat any one of the aliens if you fully read his powers. Ben can't destroy entities, they'll destroy him before he tries to destroy them. All I'm saying is, most of them can turn him back into his human form, and destroy the Omnitrix.