Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24546423-20141127133835/@comment-17746216-20141130071806

Batman v Ben 10-Batman is a tactical genius and he has gears and he is the best hand to hand combatant it is possible for batman to win against ben as i seen from The Dark Knight Returns he was able to defeat superman in fact he made the krypton(green thingy that is supermans weakness)too weak for superman to die

on the other hand ben could win by the use of alienx but i doubt ben can use alien x that much

BenvSuperman-as far as i know supermans powers are heat/xray vision,strength,speed,flight,ice breath so this will be an awesome battle superman can definitely win with most of bens aliens like fourarms,spidermonkey,feedback,blitzwolfer,big chill etc what could happen is as always ben uses alien x or atomix.even though using atomix would still be an unimaginable fight.or ben can get kryptonian dna from superman and be superben although i cannot decide if the odds are even.either of them can win

from now on ill take off ben using alien x

BenvIronman=lost-ben can use upgrade to defeat him

ill do more theories and examples later