Thread:Trigger009/@comment-24014422-20170720101738/@comment-24014422-20170720141259

Shocker03 wrote: Luma.dash wrote: When was it confirmed that Ben has only 11 aliens in his Omnitrix? The answer is "No". The more you stick to adding aliens per view the more you'll find yourself just speculating that every latest one is the final one and over and over again.

Again, the number of selected aliens is not a proof of the overall number of aliens' samples. Just like when Azmuth disclosed to Ben in Alien Force that there is over a million alien in the watch and yet he didn't unlock them all. The best you can do is to say that the watch contains undefined amount of DNA, or saying that the watch has 11 aliens unlocked so far.

Do not make it absolute. Oh yeah Luma.dash... Sure thing. And saying that the Omnitrix has "undefined" number of aliens is not absolute? Are you not implying that there could be more? And what "proof" do you have that there are not exactly 11 aliens? What if there are actually exactly 11 aliens? Information gets added on the Wiki only when it actually exists. So far there are only 11 aliens to be known in the Omnitrix so there are only 11 aliens. Sticking to adding aliens per view is not speculating, it is adding real information. We can't simply assume that there will be more so let's just say the number is undefined.

Till information is not known, the existing information is considered true. Till Ben had 10 aliens in the original series nobody doubted the total number of aliens and said it was undefined. When he unlocked his first new alien nobody thought there will be 50 more. And even if they did, they thought (emphasis on the word). Thus its just mere speculation. Until North America and South America were discovered, nobody questioned the number of continents and said it should be "undefined". Get the analogy? Notice your speech, it is "so far" there are 11 aliens unlocked, not exactly 11 aliens contained in the watch. Saying so, or saying otherwise is a pure speculation because you are predetermining. And what you would do when you get another alien? You will say there are exactly 12 aliens in the watch?

If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't make things so certain. I'd say there are so far only 11 aliens confirmed in the Omnitrix.

By going to your continent logic, it is like we are fooling ourselves and others when we can simply accept that we don't know the reality behind it.

End of the conversation.