Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24661095-20140309142453/@comment-4901718-20140320104857

I am a mature Ben 10 fan (i dont have problem in say it), i know about Ben 10 months before the series see the light in CN, until the day of today i have a poster of the OS put in my room with the date of the 1 episode.

I dont uderstand a lot how the people say that Ben 10 was a god beginning for the saga when in the firts place never was a saga, Ben 10 o OS and AF are two series that show two really different universes of the same series, only a little kid that begin to see Ben 10 when AF goes out would say something like " AF is best Ben 10 series".

In the OS The Forever Knights was a really cool organitation, in AF all that was destroy with the change of desing and putting the stupid King Patrick.

So be the series that beging everything i give to the OS a 10/10

AF

The writing was crap, that the action happen in the night doesnt mean that the show is about dark themes, AF was really more for child that Ben 10 in some way, because the storys was really simple in some case stupid to the top, like the episode when Carl and Sandra found that Ben is a Superhero and punish him, in firts place; your son os a superhero and you doesnt know it and the only thing that you do is to punish him like a kid?

AF for me was like the crap of the Justin Bieber and Pop crappy Music of the 2008 and 2009, the Highbreed plot have more to show but the creative team only do the Paradox, The assembling of the Plumber Team and all that really easy battles (The Highbreed have ship why they dont use they?)

The characters, the villains and the themes were generic in Ghost Twon all the Z'Skyar ectonurites have the same design and the same happen with the Vilgaxia people, the design of Vilgax was the bigger Crap of all because in the OS his design was organic, like a exo-armor of a alien, but with al these red, yellow and blue look lie a character from a stupid kid show.

The Original 18 or 19 aliens doesnt was use and that was sad, really sad, because Ditto, Eyeguy and Halloween 3 goes out of the show forn long time, when finally Way Big and Upchuck were use in the show along with Diamonhead her design was change (Omniverse find a good way of explain in the case of Upchuck the big fails of AF)

For that i give this series a 7, because change for good or bad the universe of Ben 10 forever.

UA

The next series in the line of shot, this series doesnt was worts that AF because the two are really bad, in the intro was show all the +30 aliens that have Ben for the moment, but only 20 of this aliens i think was used for Ben and like regulars were overused Humungosaur, Jetray and Swampfire.

The Fame theme was a really good theme but was bad write again, because Nemesis yes was a good villain, but more people out here would like to have the head of Ben in his wall. Aggregor was a good villain, i like her desing, her powers everything in the best of al this series for me was that explain the big fail of AF how Kevin goes out of the Null Void?

The animo frogs was destroy having the worts design bever seen, the real and dark themes of detectives begin in the second season, with episodes like The Jennifer and Nemesis return, that more of a Superhero or a young men show episodes goes to the dark side.

But i hate how UA storys deal with the women part in rhe storys, Julie was 2 times kidnappen and i ask myself were is Ship, why is she the girl of a Jerk like Ben that in one season likes Jennifer, later Unice and finally Elena.

The same with Chamcaster his character was destroy in UA, other thing good was the cult theme, i like that, but have Vilgax again like villain?, please, Diagon is more powerfull.

So my final score is 7/10 was a Ok series (i hate the Ultimates that is the reason because i dont talk about they)

Omniverse

In Omniverse finally Ben 10 goes out of the generic artwork, having a characters and backgrounds desings awesomes. The jokes and references takes ove the show that is the only thing that is killing Omniverse, because the writting and the art are perfect, but the references and jokes are killing the show, the only thing i misse from UA is the voice actor and the lines that have Ben, this new Ben is more joking and stupid in some way, i love that Ben stop scraming the names of the aliens like jerk.

Omniverse re-used old characters and created new characters and that is ok, was good to see people like Chadwick finally being use like a Forever Knight and not only like a spico-doctor, all the aliens and character are or are going to be back so like i say before only one thing is bad with this spin-off.

Other thing i get angry in Omniverse is that Ben have +60 aliens and until now he used almost all but he later doesnt use they like regulars and that is bad and the aliens used that in some episodes are almost 3.

For that i give they a 9/10.