Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24185694-20141116131708/@comment-4848837-20141116201349

The OS and OV Ben 10K are not the same. Anyone who thinks so is beyond ignorant, even the writers themselves. Here are my reasons:
 * Argit confirms it's 2032 or earlier by mentioning the upcoming elections for that year. If we assume OV takes place in 2012 (which lines up with the OS taking place in 2006), then that's 20 years or less. Ben is currently 16, he'd be only 36 (or, again, less). This creates a disconnect, as Ben would need to have married and had Ken by 26 (which would be 2022, the time of those Limax or Plutonian Wars (I forget which one, but this is definitely not the time for a child)), conflicting with him being 10 while Ben 10K is 42 and with Ben being 30 without children or a wife in the OS Ben 10K.
 * Kevin 11K is not evil. You can reason that he doesn't have to be for another six years, but by then Ken and Devlin are 6 years older than they were supposed to be. In addition, Kevin 11K would have to be teaching Devlin to be bad from his current age or even later, which is unlikely. Plus, Devlin admit to being raised in the Null Void, so...
 * Also OS Kevin was married to some never-seen girl from Saturn (to whom Devlin was born), but since you guys want to ignore pop-ups you can ignore this point and we can assume Kevin and Gwen had Devlin.
 * Ken having Azmuth's third Omnitrix. Doesn't matter what you have to say here, Ken having the Omnitrix in that form is an immediate disconnect from canon, even if you chuck away the existing disconnects of events at certain times.
 * Max's body shape. Even if the OS version may seem to be a logical fallacy, him not being thin doesn't fall in line with anything. You could say this is because he doesn't have to be for another 6 years, but then that's saying he was still intensively aiding as the Magistrata when he wasn't even back in Ben 10,000, not to mention everything that should happen for another 6 years (ie. Ken 10) shouldn't have happened + ages.
 * Vilgax was never torn to shreds. This is a minor one, since there's still time between 2012 and 2032 (or before), but it's implied the Malgax Attacks ep left him as he needed to be for Animo to eventually revive.
 * Ben not having Azmuth's third Omnitrix. This one's pretty obvious. It only works if we chuck away all other disconnects, and assume this is meant to take place after (this version of) Ken 10.

Now, if this is simply considered its own version of Ben 10K with many canny and uncanny similarities then everything works as far as I've cared to pay attention.

Also, Oneofthosedf, stop insulting us and backing the writers when it's the latter who need to realize this stuff just doesn't work. The writers themselves haven't explicitly stated this is the same timeline, and if we just agree this is different -- which has been confirmed only be DJW who has to be wrong for any of this to make sense -- we can all get along just fine with how what's in-show is written about our new Ben 10K.