Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6527064-20150725002151/@comment-26812877-20151016042515

Almost forgot to respond back. Anyways, Kevin had many chances in the Original Series to have a new start in his life and he blew every single one.

Are you absolutely sure that you watched the Original Series? Take a good look at Kevin there. You can sense pure evil coming off of him. Kevin may not be a typical villain for Ben but neither was Vilgax, Hex and Charmcaster, the Forever Knights, Zs'Skayr, etc.

Not so different. You're saying that Kevin, who is the opposite of Ben, is not so different from Ben. May I once again mention that the main villain in the episode "Ken 10" was future Kevin. Again, Kevin was intended to be the villain and stay as the villain. Once again, because of the type of person that Kevin is, he would never ever truly be the good guy and most certainly side with Ben and Gwen. The real Ben and Gwen would never even accept Kevin due to what he did to them. Look at everything that Kevin did in the Original Series. Kevin as a villain is where he is at his best and is where he is supposed to be in.

Again, character personality is not that much of a matter of opinion. It's mostly a matter of character design and structure. Man of Action made Ben the way he is in the Original Series becuase that is where they see him as who he truly is. Why do you think Cartoon Network tried to make Ben in Ultimate Alien and Omniverse more like his Original Series self? Some fans like the mature Ben but most fans like and prefer the Original Series Ben. That is why Cartoon Network tried to make Ben his Original Series self. The problem was that Cartoon Network and the new writers don't truly understand the type of person that Ben truly is.

Did I say I'm against a mature Ben. Again, I stated that the Original Series Ben may have been cocky, ego-centric, impulsive, fun-loving, and sometimes arrogant but he is also mature and serious and focuses on developing and improving himself. I'm not against cocky Ben and I'm not against mature Ben. I prefer both and that is who Ben was in the Original Series. Cocky and mature and I like that about Ben because that is what defines him.

I said that the Original Series Gwen is the voice of reason. The sequels Gwen is a complainer. The sequels Gwen is not the voice of reason or at tle very least she is little to barely the voice of reason.

I said "many, if not most, fans" don't like the sequels. Did I refer to every single fan? No I did not. Yes, there are a lot of fans that do like Alien Force but there are even more fans that don't like Alien Force because they found it disappointing. Why do you think that in Ultimate Alien and Omniverse, Cartoon Network tried to re-incorporate the Original Series style of again? Why do you think that the new writers tried to make Ben his Original Series self again? Because despite the fan base that Alien Force gathered, most fans did not like Alien Force. They did not like the more mature tone that Alien Force tried to incorporate. Unfortunately, Cartoon Network and the new writers never truly understood what really made the Original Series so unique and great and therefore failed to replicate the Original Series style into the sequels, which kept most fans to remain disappointed towards the sequels. Man of Action are the only people thus far that truly understand Ben 10. Without Man of Action, the series went down hill. It went on a decline.

Really, Darkstar is the dark mirror of Kevin? He's a power hungry, vampirish snob that treats women as trophies. Really, Darkstar and Kevin are more similar to each other due to their constant want for more. Darkstar is not a dark mirror to Kevin. You don't need Kevin to introduce Darkstar. In the Original Series, it was implied that Kevin experienced some child abuse through his parents kicking him out of his home. I believe he even states that himself in the episode "Kevin 11." From that point on, he was treated as a freak by others due to his powers and those are the most prominent reasons why he became a thug and a crinimal.

It is true that not everything that Man of Action touches turns into a masterpiece but it still doesn't beat the fact that Man of Action managed to create a unique and great Ben 10 show that became a multibillion dollar, Emmy-award winning, critically acclaimed cartoon show that is also considered one of the best shows that Cartoon Network had released. That is the Original Series. Man of Action created Ben 10. They made the Original Series. They are the ones that truly understand Ben 10. Therefore, Man of Action have the best intentions for the series. Unfortunately, Man of Action never got the chance so far to make the sequel that they wanted to make because Cartoon Network replaced them. You'd be surprised by just how much of an impact the creators of a show can bring to that very show. When Craig McCracken created Powerpuff Girls, that show became an Emmy-award winning success but when he left halfway through the seasons, that special touch and charm that he gave to the show went with him and therefore, the Powerpuff Girls went on a decline and lost the reputation and fame that it gain. The same thing happened with Man of Action. When Man of Action were removed and replaced by new writers, that special touch, charm, and style that thwy were so specialized in doing to the series went with them.

Again, you are still misunderstanding the very points that I'm making. Again, I have to correct you on the points that I make. Just because I said "many, if not most, fans" does not mean I'm referring to every single fan. You even contradicted yourself by putting in that very quote and then incorrectly implying that I'm referring to every fan when I'm actually not. Read my argument carefully and take note of everything that I say and e sure to double check that what you think I mean with my argument matches what I actually mean. And again, I'd recommend that you go and rewatch the Original Series because you are still missing the bigger picture of it. When I watched the Original Series when it first came out, I found it a great show but when I went back and rewatched the Original Series a while back, I found out that there was even more about it that I didn't even realize. There is more to the Original Series than you think and that you should watch it again so that you can find what you missed.