Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6527064-20150725002151/@comment-24152851-20151015040936

If he started off so similar to Ben, then why would it be impossible to follow in Ben's path? If a villain is relatable, the logical step for most shows is to make them an antihero, so they have a reason for staying around without having to be defeated by the villains. He's Ben's dark mirror image, and anything Ben could become he could become as well.

I understand if you don't like the way they turned Kevin good, but I don't agree your complete opposition to him turning good at all. Villains are allowed to realize the error of their ways and turn over a new leaf. Tvtropes calls it a "heel-faced turn". And for the record, even if Kevin didn't join Ben's team in AF, then someone similar to him would've. I guess they figured it'd be easier if they made Ben's rival from the OS fill the role.

"Which personality fitting a character" is down to opinion. Are yous saying every hero has to be a cocky, arrogant glory hound? He had that excuse when he was 10 years old, when it was just "I have this cool watch that can turn me into aliens and beat up the villains", but as he got older he learns that the world isn't so black and white, and is far more complex. Cocky Ben doesn't work with the more serious tone, as OV showed us. There are many heroes in other shows who aren't arrogant jerks who work fine, saying Ben has to have that personality and nothing else works, I just don't agree.

Okay, I agree they could have filled in the 5 year gap and why he took off the Omnitrix. I'm just don't agree you're against to him developing at all. Omniverse did try to explain what happened using those flashbacks, but they were just confusing and annoying. The reason I brought that up Gwen's powers is because you said AF/UA Gwen didn't fight and just let the boys do all the work, well that's not true. She was just as active in battle as everyone else.

All I got from Ben and Gwen in OS was just sibling rivalry, which I quickly tired of. I can only watch name calling and bickering for so long. Sure, Gwen tried to be the logical one, but back then it was more so she could be better than Ben, rather than being sensible because it's what was right.

"Once again, Kevin is better off as a villain and was supposed to stay as a villain" I'm sorry, that's your opinion. Ben 10 was okay and sometimes fun to watch, but Ben 10: Alien Force was what really pulled me in and got me involved with this franchise.

Just because you don't like it you don't have to say it's "going down hill", they just changed the targeted audience to appeal to a different crowd. The fans of the show were growing up, so they let the characters grow up as well. Unless you're saying Man of Action were not involved with the sequel, against their will, then they still allowed the new writers to sign up. Maybe they wanted something different.

Some people can miss evil Kevin, but him becoming a hero allowed newer villains to come onto the show as well. As the most sympathetic villain on the show, he has a right to turn good and not be made a heartless killer. He has a mother whom he loves and cares for.