Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26200221-20151211162449/@comment-800707-20160121014942

Kevfilms2x2 wrote: Here's what I think shouldn't be included in the reboot.

SINK GWEVIN!!! I've hate enough with this god awful couple! It was forced and contrived! And has no reason to exist! This stupid couple has plagued the Ben 10 franchise for far too long and needs to be put to rest! There were NO hints in the original of their relationship.

Kevin as a hero! Like Gwevin, Kevin's heel face turn was unneccesary and completely unrealistic. Kevin was much more better as a villain than he was a hero! Hero! Kevin is useless!

Team UAF BE GONE! The team of UAF have already butchered the franchise and should not be involved whatsoever with the reboot! They're also came up with the stupidities in OV.

Don't focus too much on Scifi. Another failure was with UAF was that it tried to retcon magic out of existence because "lol ALIENS!". UAF also tried retconning mutants out of existence. OV does a decent job exploring the magical side of Ben 10, but was hardley utilized. What made the original so great was that it had a good balance with Science and the Supernatural, so Ben 10 wasn't too limited to aliens.

Don't be lazy! Another thing I hated about UAF was the amount of Laziness put into UAF! I mean, the characters? The voicework? The Animation? The Writing? DOWNRIGHT LAZY!!! I find it sad to see how people trash on OV because of a few characters designs and artstyle when UAF WAS WORSE!!! The character designs looked absolutely nothing like the original (They made all the aliens NAKED!!)

Don't underutilize a character! Another thing I didn't like about the sequel series as whole was most of the underutilization of characters! I mean, instead of having giving Kevin a stupid unrealistic heel faced turn, WHY NOT COOPER? He's already an established hero, and he's already met Ben and Gwen! HELL! Gwooper is a more believable romance than Gwevin! Sadly the sequels underutilize him.

Don't dumb down the villains. Thing I hated about both UAF and OV is that most of the once badass villains (like vilgax) have been greatly dumbed down. I mean Vilgax was gravely dumbed down! (He was beaten by diamondhead!) then in OV, he was not only underutilized but OV made him scared of Mah Vreedle! MAH VREEDLE!!!

No continuity errors. Another problem I have with UAF was that UAF was full of continuity errors? In the original, the Plumbers were a defunct organization that dealt with aliens and occasionally the supernatural. Then in UAF? All of a sudden, they're still ongoing, and instead of being exterminators, they're a police force? ( A bad one?). Gwen in the original was more of a rebellious tomboy who was also a good magician, who got her powers by reading charmcaster's book. Then all of sudden, SHE'S AN ALIEN? Another thing I didn't like about UAF was that not only doesn't it constantly contradict the source, but it contradicts ITSELF! Like what about Ben's new access of 10 new aliens at the end of "War of the Worlds Part 2", doesn't happen in season 3. The Gwevin moments? First Gwen is like "I'm only with you because Ben is here" to "Why haven't you asked me out yet?". What about the first episode where the magister stated "There are more alien activity on earth than there ever was before" to "There are no aliens on earth" in "Dark star rising". And what about the Osmosian BS UAF clearly pulled out there ass? Osmosian go crazy when they absorb energy, so why doesn't this happen when Kevin does so in season 3 of AF? And what about Aggregor? Infact? Why does Aggregor go to jail when he has the SAME EXCUSE AS KEVIN!! Or what about that stupid "Code of Conduct", if Vilgax returns to earth? Vilgax would be executed? And guess what he does? So this series should have much better continuity and consistency.

No nameshouting! It is self explanatory. Ben doesn't need to shout out the name of the aliens. Not only does it get annoying very fast, but it makes him sound stupid! So no no on name shouting!

More original aliens. Another thing I hated about UAF was the fact that, they weren't new! They were recylced concepts of the originals! I mean Swampfire is Heatblast and Wildvine (also Wildmutt, because he can smell INSPITE of not having a nose). Goop is nothing but cheaper version of Upgrade. Eatle? Nothing but an Upchuck ripoff. Jury Rigg? A crazy version of Greymatter. Fastrack? a cheap replacement of Xlr8. Hugo? A fourarms and waybig ripoff. Chromastone is also but a weaker version of Diamondhead! Echo Echo is nothing but a ripoff of Ditto and Blitzwolfer. So on and so fourth! Atleast OV utlized more originality.

A balance of action and comedy. The original was had the nice balance of action, blended in comedy, but was never afraid of being dark and serious. UAF tried to be dark and serious, but was watered down because "Oh, i'm a kid's show". While OV was way too light hearted and afraid of being dark. UAF didn't have funny moments, and when they did, they weren't funny. OV was 75% comedy and 25% action. This should have more balance to the tone and shouldn;t be afraid of being adult.

Likable characters. I did like Ben's maturity in the first two seasons of AF, that is until it decided to throw it all away to cater to the fans they lost, by making him an immature jackass. While OV made him a full blown immature jackass! Gwen was also Unlikable as she was constantly sucking up to Kevin, while Kevin is an asshole who constantly get's forgiven and reward for crimes in UAF/OV.

Bad Romance. The sequels are bad love stories that should have never existed. So if there is going to be any romance of any kind? Do it correctly. Otherwise, we'll get another Gwevin.

No Flash animation. The series should remain as a hand drawn animation. I don't want it to suffer the same fate as TTG. Where it had hand drawn animation on the pilots, only to throw it away in the launch of the series. I just can't believe you of all people would hate Gwevin or the fact that Kevin has become Ben's friend!