Board Thread:New on Ben 10 Wiki/@comment-76.117.249.8-20130323161926/@comment-4848837-20130323222134

SuperTV&GameFan wrote: Ok guys stop blaming Derrick! He's only the art director! Ben and Julie aren't a couple anymore, big deal. High School relationships don't last forever. And if you're gonna make a reference to Ben 10,000 Returns that could still happen in multiple ways.

1. Ben 10,000 did activate a lot of aliens for 16 year old Ben in that episode. Who's to say he didn't upgrade his current Omnitrix?

2. Ben 10,000 mentioned NOTHING about marrying Julie or Kai so calm down about that.

3. Someone said earlier in this disscussion that they should have ended the franchise after UA and that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. OV is waaaaaaaay better than UAF because everythings lighter just like the Original Series. In Alien Force and Ultimate Alien Ben was too serious and it took the fun out of everything. 1. You can't upgrade technology by just putting in a code (at least, for a human it's not possible).

2. We're not referencing Ben 10,000 Returns AT ALL. We're talking about the original series Ben 10,000. We're talking about how that's what we're straying it from. In that episode (pop-up edition), it was confirmed that Ben 10K married Kai. Maybe Ben 10K from Returns didn't marry her (very likely), but that's not the point here.

3. That is your personal opinion. Ben did not take the fun out of everything. Ben was still very fun. In Omniverse, they've turned him upside-down. He's 100% fun. That makes no sense considering all the progress he'd made in past years. It's okay to be less fun, but it's not like he was the buzzkill original Ben 10K. He was nowhere near. He and the fun Ben 10K were quite similar in personality and fun, and they had their moments for being serious.