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Oneofthosedf wrote: Cokedragon wrote: Omniverse, without a doubt... Okay, it's nice, it's an opinion. People could discuss this forever, so let me say that Ultimate Alien had at least that many flaws if not more. You can decide that it was more or not but that show was far from professional. As I previously said not only the night colors and the boredom were problems but the music and the acting.

One more thing, I always hear these Omniverse retcons and I'm just curious (since no one answers it when I ask these question) that how many OV retcons there are?

Psyphon, sure, Baumann, yes complete turnaround after his 5 minutes in Purge. The Plumbers' kid: ''Oh, they are not actually human-alien love children who born at the same time and lost their parents at the same time? They are just kids taken to the Null Void and fused with alien DNA, then they got their memory wiped. (this just screamed to get retconned)'' Osmosians are a human subspecies, it just makes more sense than that there is a whole species that can have that many powers and they caused no trouble so far. The Plumber base on Earth and of course the end of the stupidest, useless, most irrelevant relationship ever. Animo also got retconned from his body builder self to his original self but that idea was just so, I don't even have a word for it.

That's all I can come up with, it's like 7. For me 5 out of 7 are good retcons and the other 2 are just irrelevant. Something the people dont see is that Alien Force retcon all the series, retcon the Forever Knights, retcon Kevin, retcon Gwen, retcon Bellwood, retcon Ben parents, retcon Vilgax, retcon Omnitrix, retcon the main design, retcon Dr. Animo, retcon Max, retcon Verdona, retcon Hex, retcon Chamcaster, retcon Cooper, retcon the Plumbers.

In some little words Alien Force retcon all the original universe of Ben 10, to give us this new vision of Ben 10, but the problem was that; one Alien Force dont use or make really good any of this retcon. The Forever Knights never have justice in that series (and they was one of the main villains of Ben 10), Kevin past never was explain, Bellwood city never was use good, Dr. Animo in the Null Void only was the worts idea ever, Max was ok, Hex and Chamcaster retcon dont have any sense, Verdona the same they never use good the character and the Plumbers, that was the bigger retcon of all, because they was the area 51 of Ben 10 and become this alien thing...

The list go on, what i try to say is that Alien Force was a stupid series because retcon all the Universe of Ben 10, without any good history or any  good use of what they change.

The next series Ultimate Alien only was so bad that take the things to the next level and make retcons of retcons, retcon Chamcaster, retcon Kevin (again), retcon Omnitrix, retcon Gwen part of the family and the list go on...

Omniverse make only good retcons, because they mix the original version, with the retcon of Alien Force, with the retcon of Ultimate Alien. A good example of that is Chamcaster, in Omniverse she is not a hero or a villain, is like a antihero, his character is a mix of his original series, AF and UA personality and characters involve in his story.

So i will say all the retcons of Omniverse:

Retcon Omnitrix, retcon Gwen, retcon Kevin, retcon Ben, retcon Plumbers, retcon Bellwood, retcon Mr. Baumann, retcon Incurseans, retcon Albedo, retcon Ben past, retcon Dr. Animo, retcon Phil, retcon Azmuth past, retcon Albedo past, retcon Vulkanus, retcon Psyphon, retcon every alien on the Omnitrix, retcon Vilgax, retcon a lot of planets and space, retcon Vreedles, retcon Dr. Viktor, retcon the Forever Knights, retcon Argit, retcon Patelliday, retcon Trumbipulor, retcon Julie, retcon Gourdman, retcon Six Six, retcon Seven Seven, retcon Eon, retcon Ben 10.000, retcon Paradox, retcon Zombozo, retcon cousin Lucy, retcon Circus Freaks, retcon Darkstar, retcon Kai Green, retcon Chamcaster, retcon Zs'Skayr, retcon Gwen 10, retcon Kangaroo Kommando, retcon Captain Nemesis, retcon Kraab, retcon the Plumber Kids, retcon Osmosian, retcon Devin Levin, retcon Colonel Rozum, retcon Slix Vigma, retcon Simian, retcon Rojo...

This are only the retcons i remember and the worts of all if that AF and UA cause that Omniverse had to do all that retcons...