Thread:Trigger009/@comment-24014422-20170720101738/@comment-24922135-20170720131635

Luma.dash wrote: You're mixing official terms with conclusions this wiki has come of. No I'm not. Let me make it more simple; the 'Upgrade' name is defined by the show, and is the name Ben calls for his sample of Galvanic Mechamorph DNA. And so it must be called as such, not by its race's name. My point went over your head. If I called you a human that's what you are, not your name. I was talking about Upgrade's species and how Vilgax stated it as an example of how we stick to what the show says. Now, let me ask you again, when was it confirmed that Ben has only 11 aliens in his Omnitrex? For a start it was never confirmed that Ben had an 'Omnitrex'. I assume you mean Omnitrix so I'll read the rest as though that's what you said.

Up until Omni-Tricked Ben had only 10. Then he had 11. Then he had 10 again. Now he has 11.

So I'll ask you when you think it was confirmed that there are more than 11? It wasn't. Heavily implied, sure, but not confirmed. The answer is "No". The more you stick to adding aliens per view the more you'll find yourself just speculating that every latest one is the final one and over and over again. We're not speculating anything. Each one is the final one that Ben has access to at present time. That's the point. We're talking about Ben's Omnitrix. There's no point saying he can transform into more than 11 yet because he can't he only has 11 unlocked. Therefore we only know it contains 11 DNA samples. By current knowledge it used to have 12 until Gax was removed.

Again, the number of selected aliens is not a proff of the overall number of aliens' samples. Just like when Azmuth disclosed to Ben in Alien Force that there is over a million alien in the watch and yet he didn't unlock them all. The best you can do is to say that the watch contains undefined amount of DNA, or saying that the watch has 11 aliens unlocked so far.

Do not make it absolute. I'm sure your point would have been more absolute if you had a spellcheck.

My point is simple: Saying there are more than 11 DNA samples in the Omnitrix is speculation on your part and on Ben's part. The only concrete evidence we have is of those 11. Bear in mind the statement we're debating over is "It contains the DNA of 11 aliens and can transform its user into one of them for a limited period of time." So even if it was confirmed that the Omnitrix had, say, 30 DNA samples in it, at present time this statement is still correct.