Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-800707-20141108232701/@comment-1409915-20141111132335

I'd say in counter to your pictures that UAF never really ever had feeling. If she was in anyway hurting, which she would be a lot more than is displayed, just that, it'd be displayed. UAF didn't do a good job of showing the character's feelings all the time.

I'd also counter than yes, you can become permanently insane from this. Heck you can become permanently insane from just about everything. Now sure you can bounce back but that depends on who you are. Charmcaster was already unstable from the beginning. It makes more sense to drop her back in that than to reform her.

Also, her being named Hope was stupid. As far as that message goes it shows that just because you have a name that means good doesn't necessarily mean you'll live up to it. That's how real life works. If anything that's a message you want to send. But still they should never have called her Hope. Also you can't really insult psychologically troubled people by including them in media. That's not really how insults work.

Now if you're saying the episode is non-canon then granted, there is no real reason for her to be coco for coco puffs other than her just naturally gravitating towards insanity or maybe something else. People can change, people can stay the same, or they can change so much it looks like they stayed the same. The moral of Ben 10. Forever insane demonstrates more a concept that something to be taken literally word for word. It doesn't necessarily mean she'll be insane forever it just means....wait a minute....I didn't say anything about forever insane.....

Are you talking about the broadside of forever? That's not something literal, that's just a saying I use.

Also if you consider The Enemy of My Frenemy canon then yes UA did set her up for what she was in OV, it just didn't show it. As I said earlier, UAF wasn't particularly good with that. Also saying OV is too cartoony for it's own good is irrelevant. The stories still have the same resonance as always if not more so in OV. Look at it as giving more depth to Charmcaster......gosh!......WHY HOPE!? Such a bad name for her....