Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-25259448-20140803091122/@comment-34326521-20140805190721

Deciblo wrote: Jetray can defeat ech echo because he travels faster than the weapon echo echo uses himself. After your logic, I suppose I was wrong about clockwork. Way big cannot defeat echo echo. Echo echo would fly up and duplicate in the air, making way big swat flies as echo echo does a rotating echo chamber around way big, taking him down. Cosmic ray fires in a striaght line. Echo echo duplicates in the air would be very hard to hit, considering echo echo's size compared to way big's. As for goop, swampfire and upgrade, draw. Goop might kill a miserable amount of echo echo, but sound blasts goo back. Eventually, Goop will find himself flattened against the wall by a row of sonic waves. Swampfire, fire is just the combustion of air. Which can be blasted back by sound. Soon the venue of the fight would be blazing, but echo echo waould not be hurt by fire from the front. Then just finish the fight with a sonic field around swampfire since nothing else would work. So thats a draw. Upgrade is certainly not indestructable. Bazoar, who was near death, fainted. Before upgrade transforms, echo echo would make many duplicates. By the time upgrade touches technology, the room will be filled with flying echo echo. Lasers can only take one at a time, whereas upgrade will already be in position for an echo chamber. Echo Echo cannot fly. That was retconned as being a glitch power. As for the cosmic ray, I think someone didn't watch "The Ultimate Enemy: Part 1". Ultimate Way Big lost control of his cosmic ray and fired it everywhere.

Fire is the rapid oxidation of matter. Sound is made of vibrating molecules. Note that vibration is not the same as movement in one direction; it's movement around a point (the so-called "rest position"). Fire cannot be "pushed back" by sound, or at least not without also "pushing it forward" with the same strength less than a second later. Also, why wouldn't Echo Echo be harmed by the heat? Is heat immunity one of his powers? I didn't see that in any episode. However, sound can make physical things fall apart, if it's at the right frequency (Google "resonance"), so it could work against Goop... if Goop didn't have his anti-gravity projector that could just keep reassembling him, as well as enabling him to fly at a moment's notice and rain down acid on Echo Echo.

If Echo Echo starts out already transformed into, but Upgrade does not, that's an unfair advantage. In a fair scenario, Upgrade would win, as there would only be one Echo Echo to be blasted away in a second. Upgrade wouldn't even have to merge with any technology. Although, if he did, it would just make him win faster than if he didn't.