Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34260455-20180124165442

Specifically, Ben 10k and Kevin 11k.

Are we *absolutely* sure that the events of "Ken 10" and the events of "End of an Era" are in the same timeline? Due to how much the Prime timeline has been tampered with, it's reasonable to assume that OV's future is different from OS's future. The original "Ben 10,000" episode implies that OS has now branched off from that timeline entirely, and UA's "Ben 10,000" episode explicitly states that UA's timeline is separate from the OS "Ben 10,000" timeline.

How can a timeline branch off from itself and then branch back into itself? It's much more reasonable to assume that OV follows a similar, but completely separate, timeline to OS. All the out-of-universe justifications for plot inconsistencies are completely unnecessary if you just follow the series' established rules of time travel.

Not to mention that adding "Ben 10,000" and "Ken 10" to the Prime timeline cheapens many aspects of the story. Devlin's arc is completely pointless (and he won't be Gwen's son), Ben will lose his childhood wonder (despite being reinvigorated at the end of OV), Kevin will turn evil again despite all his character development, and Ben's daughter just vanishes I guess.

I can't be alone here. Should we treat OV's Ben 10k as a separate timeline from OS? All the writers said was that they'd "follow" the OS future, not necessarily make it the same timeline as OS. 