Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-4908075-20190413100016/@comment-4908075-20190413173515

TronTravolta wrote: 'Retcons exist', and the future we saw in the Original Series was retconned so heavily that it no longer resembles what we get in Omniverse. Also I think you misunderstand the Cake idea. The Ben we see in Ken 10 is still the same as the future in Ben 10,000, the one who never got Max a cake. The Ben we follow for the rest of the Original Series and into UAF is the one who did get Max a cake. Obviously the Ken 10 and Ben 10,000 episodes take place in the same time. It's disingenuous to say that 'clearly' they're seperate, when it's the opposite case.

1. May I know what authority you or I or anyone not part of the creative team can decide if the timeline is separate or not when a crew member has explicitly said they are not on multiple occasions, even citing higher authorities. Do debate over that is pointless.

2. Yes, of course, in Ben 10,000 (Episode), Ben corrects his mistake of not getting a cake for Max by giving a cake to his younger self (and seemingly changing his past). But another episode involving Ben 10,000 in the next season will revert back to the future in which the cake was not given. Of course. What an interesting choice by the writers. Even more so, in OV, the future will be the one in which the cake was given, instead of continuing this tradition of using the future in which the cake was not given. Lovely.

If you guys are going to assume that "cake not given" Ben 10,000 is the one in Ken 10, might as well assume that "cake not given" Ben 10,000 was also in OV. Who said that "cake given" Ben 10,000 was in OV?

See, that's the problem I am talking about. The wiki is keen on assuming things it wants to, not what's official. DJW said that OV Ben 10K is OS Ben 10K. End of story. What seems logical is not what the wiki must take as canon. What is canon is what the wiki must take as canon.